Musings on the industry, success, hype...
September 24
Tail end of last year, everyone was shocked by the news that The End, Layo and Mr C's landmark London club, was shutting its doors. Obviously, most people felt the impact primarily on their clubbing options, but once you get above a certain level, the 'industry' part of 'the music industry' starts to apply - and The End was definitely above that level.
What I mean by this is that The End was, in dance music terms, a large organisation, that had been built up over many years, with a dedicated team of full-time employees. I met two of them, Ryan and Ajay, at last years Spring08 Festival in Graz, Austria, before there was any whiff of the closure of the club, so when I heard what was going down, I obviously thought about them - what would they turn their hand to? How would the closure of the business affect them? Before too long, I started to notice the name WeFearSilence cropping up on various flyers and events, but it took a while before I found out that it was the new project from Ryan and Ajay. Working as a kind of uber-promotion, WeFearSilence works alongside labels, exisiting promoters and well known-DJs to add a properly wide-ranging flavour to London's clubland - I played at their promotion with Chew The Fat! a couple of weeks ago (and had a thoroughly enjoyable time), and if you check the flyer, you can see that next Friday, they are working with abunchofcuts.com to offer one of the most forward-thinking DnB line ups I've seen in a long while - not to mention the back room, where you can catch Marcus Intalex, Doc Scott and Commix playing house and techno sets. OMG indeed.Anyways, read on for a bit of an insight into what it takes to set up a promotions company, how the end of The End affected people who worked there, what it was like working for Mr C, and plenty more besides. And keep checking www.wefearsilence.com for the latest treats they're working on. I mean, on which they are working, in case my old English teacher is reading this.
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1. WeFearSilence rose out of the ashes of The End - could you explain what it is and what made you want to give it a go?
Well, when the closure of The End was announced, Ajay and I were tasked with calling many of the promoters to give them the news. Many of them asked what Ajay and I were going to do and to be honest we hadn't really thought about it at that point. A few suggested they'd like to continue working with us, so we started looking at venues and it went from there really. Before we knew it, we were launching at The Arches and trying to make our mark on the London clubbing scene by doing something different.
2. How did you get involved with the whole clubland / promotions ting? What was it like working for The End?
I used to throw parties near where I lived in Yorkshire. Woods, people’s houses, deserted barns out in the sticks - nowhere was safe! We used to get shut down by the police though - they'd close roads, confiscate our systems and so on - the time we were doing it was when the CJB (Criminal Justice Bill) was announced and they’d come down hard on us because of that. I just thought, screw this, there has to be a way to do it legally and I ended up getting a job at The End as the Office Junior. That’s where Ajay and I met - he started as an Office Junior too, which kind of explains how working for The End was. Many of the key people started on the bottom rung of the ladder and worked their way up - it was a great vibe.
3. What's Mr C like?
Probably just as you’d imagine him if you’ve read any interviews. Salt of the earth with boundless enthusiasm.
4. How did you all find out that the End was closing? And how quickly did you go from that to deciding to do your own thing?
The same as in any other company I imagine – taken up to the MD’s office and told a day or so before it became public knowledge. Like I said above, it kind of happened naturally - as we spoke to people who were doing events at the club to explain it was over, they expressed a wish to continue working with Ajay and me.
5. How hard was it to get up and running? What kind of hoops did you have to jump through - meetings with lawyers, the council etc. or more just get a name, set up a company and get stuck in?
Incredibly hard. Not so much hoops with authorities, but hoops that I couldn't begin to go into here...things you wouldn't imagine! It has definitely been harder than I thought it would be. Not through any sort of naivety, but we have had to deal with a lot of things I think most people setting out on their own business journey wouldn't have to. That said, I think we are doing pretty well considering we are an independent two man team...
6. What would a standard day involve? Who does what?
Get up around midday, leisurely breakfast, meet Ajay at the pub around 2pm, sink a few pints, home… I wish! Its like a day in any other office - meetings with DJs, promoters, venue and dealing with the various bits that go with running a business – finances, planning and so on. The hours are pretty hard though. If I get away with doing a 10 hour day now and then I’m lucky – it’s usually 12 hours on a weekday and then a few hours on Saturday and Sunday just to keep on top of things. And of course missing a nights sleep every time we do a party – we work those too so we don't even really get to enjoy them properly! In fact, why the hell am I doing this??!?
Regarding our roles in the business, Ajay tends to look after the music side of things and I am more the promo man, but we both get our hands dirty with everything really - whatever needs doing, we both jump on it.
7. Do you have any advice for people who are just getting started in promoting events? What are some common mistakes promoters make, especially when they're starting off?
Leave nothing to chance... Really make sure everything is covered.
8. Does WeFearSilence have any particular music policy? The nights have a massive range, from Caspa to Commix, but its all quality stuff...
We just love music and we want the nights to represent that. We don't want to be labeled as a House night or a Techno night or get tagged as Dubstep or Drum & Bass purists... We want to do it all because we like it all. Most DJs that are coming through now are playing more than one form of music and we definitely feel like we should embrace that.
9. What's the biggest stress doing a night, and the biggest satisfaction?
Seeing people having fun is always the best bit - occasionally a night just ‘gels’, so to speak, in terms of the DJ, the crowd, the atmosphere all working together... Only then does it properly go off. When that happens and you are in some way responsible, that’s obviously great. The biggest stress varies depending on the night.
10. From one Yorkshireman to another - NORTH or south?
Ha ha! I couldn't possibly say… ;o)
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